When Do You Own a Box?

[skibumdc]

According to Addiction's wording, if you consume 1 cigar out of a box, you no longer have a BOX.

For example, let's say he has 2 full intact boxes of Cohiba Reservas, and 1 open box.

Now MOST of us would say he has 3 boxes, but he is VERY specific in his wording and only says he has 2 boxes.

Is his math or wording correct?

If his wording is true, then I only have 1 25ct box and 2 (10) count boxes.

I tried using that Fuzzy Math with my wife
Yeah, she didn't buy it.

So, if I open a PL Robusto box and consume 1 or 2 cigars, do I still have a box?

I mean no disrespect to Addiction. I am humbled to smoke in his presence and we gift each other many cigars and help each other out time and time again. I simply want to see if I am the only one that thinks his math is a bit...off

[Smallclub]

There is a contest for the most futile and useless poll?

[BigRon]

Sorry Bryan.. lol

If theres a few cigars missing, all it means is that you enjoyed a good smoke..

[BigRon]

There is a contest for the most futile and useless poll?

Winner Winner, chicken dinner.. lol

You guys win the Ninfa Trophy

[skibumdc]

You guys win the Ninfa Trophy

That would be AWESOME

[md4958]

You didnt list option 4:

I own a box when Bryan tells me I own a box.

[TrickNick]

I think Bryan makes a good point simply for the fact that if I post a box for sale most people would think of it as a full box and one with some smokes missing as a partial box. In that respect I have mostly partial boxes in my collection.

[K Baz]

Personally I think a "box" is a box when its full (whole)

But thats just me

I usually have boxes, part of boxes, and singles

[Parshooter]

I guess it's all in the interpertation. I have many boxes, some full, some partial, and most empty. When in conversation, I will say "full box", "opened box" (at least one cigar missing), "half box" (give or take a few cigars), or "what's left in a box" (only a few cigars remain).
If someone to tell me they had a box of Monte 2, and I wanted to know, I would ask if it was full.

[Bob_LobLaw]

Interesting semantics. To me you own a box when you buy a box and get the whole package with 25 cigars, cello, container and little leaflet. You still own it after you start smoking from it because you still reference it as a box you owned when full. As in, I have smoked 3 cigars from my box of X, they need some more down time.

[chenvt]

I'm asian, so if Bryan had 3 boxes of reservas (90 total) and smoked one out of the box (89), I would say he has 2.97 boxes.. But in chat I'll just usually round

[jkim05]

My definition: if you keep the cigars in the box, it's a box, but I go by Dan's definition as well.

[Addiction]

If you had 23 cigars, and sold that on ICC as a box, you would get flamed over it, even if your pricing only accounted for 23 cigars. Thus 23 cigars ain't a box if the box started with 25.

Defense Rests.

[Addiction]

There is a contest for the most futile and useless poll?

Give the man a break Frank, just having a little fun is all.

[skibumdc]

Interesting semantics.

That's true it is semantics. But I am just curious as to what others think.

[skibumdc]

Sure Dan. Play the Asian card. lol

[goalie204]

so if I have a box of kleenex and use one to blow my nose, i no longer have a box of kleenex? Stupid imo :P

[Addiction]

so if I have a box of kleenex and use one to blow my nose, i no longer have a box of kleenex? Stupid imo :P

You are entitled to your opinion. However if you have a box of anything and consume some part of it you no longer have a full box. You have some number remaining stored in a box for connivence sake. Because the flip side of your argument is that I could have 1 Kleenex in the box and call it a box.

The second you use the term "box" as a standard of measurement it takes on a rigid definition, not a fluid one. Any engineer or scientist would agree I believe.

[DocLogic77]

I voted that Bryan's definition is whack mainly because I like to playa hate...but I would agree with him. Once I smoke one cigar out of a box...that box will either be consumed or sold in 5rs. I no longer consider it part of the collection...thus doesn't get counted.

[DocLogic77]

so if I have a box of kleenex and use one to blow my nose, i no longer have a box of kleenex? Stupid imo :P

If you take a cup out of a gallon of water is it still a gallon?

I see a "box" as a until of measurement...if it's not then many cigar discussions are invalid.

-I have a box of Cohiba Lanceros for sale....$325 Most would assume thats a full 25 count. Someone would get pretty irritated if only 23 were left.

- I tell JKim that I'm sending him a box of Bolivar CEs for his birthday. He gets them and 3 have been consumed. While he should be happy he got cigars...I know part of him would go what the? When I said a box...he expect a box...25 cigars the unit of measurement for a box.

-John asks Bill...how many boxes of cigars do you own? He says 50. But, most are down to a half or a few cigars. Was that an honest answer to John's question?

And when does a box...not become a box? There has to be a value associated with it. 1,5,10?

And yes...I love useless debates...breaks the day up.